Newchurch of Rot's leader:
'Talk to the Lord' About Receiving the Eucharist!!’
Obviously Bergoglio has no clue in regards to the Holy Catholic Faith and her Fidei depositum! God help us all!
Obviously Bergoglio has no clue in regards to the Holy Catholic Faith and her Fidei depositum! God help us all!
Pope Francis has caused controversy by appearing
to suggest that a Lutheran wife of a Catholic husband could receive holy
Communion based on the fact that she is baptized and in accordance with her
conscience.
During a question and answer session at an evening
prayer service on Sunday in Rome’s Evangelical Lutheran Church, the Pope urged
the Lutheran woman, Anke de Bernardinis,
to "talk to the Lord" about receiving holy Communion "and
then go forward", but added that he "wouldn’t ever dare to allow
this, because it’s not my competence."
The Pope was responding to de Bernardinis who
asked him how she could finally achieve Eucharistic communion with her Catholic
husband.
The Holy Father answered by firstly posing the
question whether the Eucharist is the goal of walking together, or acts as the
sustenance (viaticum) of such a path. The answer, he said, should be left to
theologians.
He then went on to say that, when sharing, “there
aren’t differences between us” and doctrine becomes the “same”. Doctrine, he
said, is a “difficult word to understand — but I ask myself: don’t we have the
same Baptism? If we have the same Baptism, shouldn’t we be walking together?”
He said Lutheran and Catholic language are “the
same” when it comes to teaching children why Jesus came among us and what he
did for mankind.
Moving on to the Lord’s Supper itself, the Pope
said there are “questions that, only if one is sincere with oneself and with
the little theological light one has, must be responded to on one’s own.”
He added: “See for yourself. This is my body. This
is my blood. Do it in remembrance of me – this is a viaticum that helps us to
journey on.”
Continuing with his answer, the Pope recalled a
Protestant pastor-friend who once told him that they, too, believed that the
Lord is present in the Eucharist and wondered what the difference was. “Life is
bigger than explanations and interpretations," the Pope said. "Always
refer back to your baptism. ‘One faith, one baptism, one Lord.’ This is what
Paul tells us, and then take the consequences from there."
The Pope added: “I wouldn’t ever dare to allow
this, because it’s not my competence. One baptism, one Lord, one faith. Talk to
the Lord and then go forward. I don’t dare to say anything more.”
The Holy Father's words have been causing
widespread concern in Rome, leading some to go as far as to describe them as an
attack on the sacraments. “The Rubicon has been crossed,” said one source close
to the Vatican. “The Pope said it in a charming way, but this is really about
mocking doctrine. We have seven sacraments, not one.”
The issue is particularly sensitive at the current
time given the continuing pressure to allow remarried-divorcees to receive holy
Communion within the "internal forum", guided by their
confessor.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that,
because ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from
the Catholic Church "have not preserved the proper reality of the
Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the
sacrament of Holy Orders," Eucharistic intercommunion with these
communities "is not possible.”
However it adds that when they commemorate the
Lord's death and resurrection in the Holy Supper, they "profess that it
signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory."
(No. 1400). More on canonical rules concerning intercommunion can be found here.
Here below are the Pope’s comments in context (my
working translation):
Question: My name is Anke de Bernardinis and, like
many people in our community, I'm married to an Italian, who is a Roman
Catholic Christian. We’ve lived happily together for many years, sharing joys
and sorrows. And so we greatly regret being divided in faith and not being able
to participate in the Lord's Supper together. What can we do to achieve,
finally, communion on this point?
Heretic Cardinal Kasper
Pope Francis: The question on sharing the Lord’s
Supper isn’t easy for me to respond to, above all in front of a theologian like
Cardinal Kasper! I’m scared!
I think of how the Lord told us when he gave us
this command to “do this in memory of me,” and when we share the Lord’s Supper,
we recall and we imitate the same as the Lord. And there will be the Lord’s
Supper, there will be the eternal banquet in the new Jerusalem, but that will
be the last one. In the meantime, I ask myself — and don’t know how to respond
— what you’re asking me, I ask myself the question. To share the Lord’s
banquet: is it the goal of the path or is it the viaticum [provisions] for
walking together? I leave that question to the theologians and those who
understand.
It’s true that in a certain sense, to share means
there aren’t differences between us, that we have the same doctrine –
underscoring that word, a difficult word to understand — but I ask myself: but
don’t we have the same Baptism? If we have the same Baptism, shouldn’t we be
walking together? You’re a witness also of a profound journey, a journey of
marriage: a journey really of the family and human love and of a shared faith,
no? We have the same Baptism.
When you feel yourself to be a sinner – and I feel
more of a sinner – when your husband feels a sinner, you go to the Lord and ask
forgiveness; your husband does the same and also goes to the priest and asks
absolution. I’m healed to keep alive the Baptism. When you pray together, that
Baptism grows, becomes stronger. (???!) When you teach your kids who Jesus is, why
Jesus came, what Jesus did for us, you’re doing the same thing, whether in the
Lutheran language or the Catholic one, but it’s the same. (??) The question: and the
[Lord’s] Supper? There are questions that, only if one is sincere with oneself
and with the little theological light one has, must be responded to on one’s
own. See for yourself. This is my body. This is my blood. Do it in remembrance
of me – this is a viaticum that helps us to journey on.
I once had a great friendship with an Episcopalian
bishop who went a little wrong – he was 48 years old, married, two children.
This was a discomfort to him – a Catholic wife, Catholic children, him a
bishop. He accompanied his wife and children to Mass on Sunday, and then went
to worship with his community. It was a step of participation in the Lord’s
Supper. Then he went forward, the Lord called him, a just man. To your
question, I can only respond with a question: what can I do with my husband,
because the Lord’s Supper accompanies me on my path?
It’s a problem each must answer, but a
pastor-friend once told me: “We believe that the Lord is present there, he is
present. You all believe that the Lord is present. And so what's the
difference?” — “Eh, there are explanations, interpretations.” Life is bigger
than explanations and interpretations. Always refer back to your baptism. “One
faith, one baptism, one Lord.” This is what Paul tells us, and then take the
consequences from there. I wouldn’t ever dare to allow this, because it’s not
my competence. One baptism, one Lord, one faith. Talk to the Lord and then go
forward. I don’t dare to say anything more.
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